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Sep. 13th, 2006 @ 12:00 pm jamie gold interview
I'm a little late with this, but you have to listen to this guy... skip forward a bit to when jamie shows up.

For the first few minutes I thought maybe he's just riding a little high after winning twelve million. But then it goes on, and on, and on, and somehow he keeps amping up his awesomeness even when it would seem there's nowhere left to climb. It was like watching a movie with five climaxes. Hmmm, that might be overapt given how much jism was coming out of him.

I love it how every time someone wins a big tournament he thinks he's invented a dozen new poker tricks. Limping with a big hand on the button? It's unheard of! Playing more than 5% of your hands? Groundbreaking! Telling the truth about your hand while it's in progress? Nobody ever does that! I do like that he thinks you're only "supposed" to play 5% of your hands. If I can just line up seven more guys like that I'll win 60% of the pots uncontested. Man, this game is easy.

Just by way of sample, he quotes norman chad as saying "it was by far the greatest display of poker talent in the history of poker." Hey, that's good enough for me.
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From:terrencechan
Date:September 13th, 2006 06:04 pm (UTC)
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I nearly died of laughter when he said he had Allen Cunningham completely confused. "He had no idea what to do!"
From:spidurman
Date:September 13th, 2006 06:18 pm (UTC)
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Well he is/was a Hollywood agent. Self-promotion and hype are the basic job skills there. Can't say that I'm surprised that he would be that way.
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From:dannimal
Date:September 13th, 2006 07:05 pm (UTC)
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Winner.
From:hexag1
Date:September 13th, 2006 06:39 pm (UTC)

BS

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Seems like Jamie Gold is just pumping out the BS in all his interviews. Before he won, he was claiming that he was a big time talent agent. You should check out his interview in bluff magazine this month. hes like "i was a child prodigy, i got a perfect 1600 on my SATs when i was 12" "i learned to count like this: 'Ace,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,jack,queen,king'" lol
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From:halfempty
Date:September 13th, 2006 08:25 pm (UTC)
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If he's joking, it's beautiful. If he's serious....

I think he's joking.
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From:halfempty
Date:September 13th, 2006 08:31 pm (UTC)
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I change my mind. He's not kidding. Bring back Fossil+Hachem plz kthx.
From:superfluousman
Date:September 13th, 2006 09:49 pm (UTC)

I love that fallacy!

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When you're going to appeal to a poker authority, who could possibly be better than Norman Chad?

As an aside, Norman Chad actually came over to my Day 1 table after some guy went apeshit when the dealer declared his hand dead (apparently you can't be sitting at the table while on the cell phone). He violently mucked his KK face-up and got a penalty. Norman smelled out the drama and came rushing over to find out what happened. I asked him how wife number 10 was doing; he gave me a dirty look and said he was only engaged to (potentially) wife number 3. I wish I had said something witty after that, but I don't know how to finish this sentence.
From:lpasnak
Date:September 14th, 2006 12:19 am (UTC)
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I hear that it's no longer going to be called Texas Hold'em. The new name is Jamie Gold Poker.
From:kyleplaysbass
Date:September 14th, 2006 12:29 am (UTC)
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I will be the WSOP Jamie Gold poker main event champion in 2008. Ps amazing avatar lpasnak, I voted green :P
From:tpiranha
Date:September 14th, 2006 01:24 am (UTC)
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I listened to part of a CardPlayer interview that was taken the night he won. I stopped listening after he said something to the effect that going into the final table he knew that no one could outplay him.

Man, at least have some respect for Alan Cunningham.
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From:parcimony
Date:September 14th, 2006 01:52 am (UTC)
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I'm not with all the Gold haters out there, before I label someone a bad guy I like to have something concrete . However, this interview was about enough to sway me. Clearly Gold has no idea how he comes off to other people. Anyone would be riding high after winning something that big in such a dominant fashion, but most of us would have the basic awareness to keep our ego in check.

At this point the best light I can put Gold in is as someone lacking maturity who works in an industry and city where out of control egos are the norm.

In any case, the next year will be entertaining.
From:howardtreesong
Date:September 14th, 2006 05:23 am (UTC)
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The man is a windbag douche.
From:arlo_payne
Date:September 14th, 2006 06:35 am (UTC)

Confused

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Are you talking about Gold or Paul :)

Just kidding Paul. You know I love you like a hang nail :)
From:tuco99
Date:September 14th, 2006 07:07 am (UTC)

Gold

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I really was shocked when agreed to do it on our little show. It was quite the coup for us. That part I thank him for.

Obviously the easiest interview we've ever done. Just wind him up and let him go! He was obviously excited and only two days after winning, but he really did put his foot in it a couple times.

I'm always suspicious of people who tell me how good they are. The man just won the biggest tournament of all time in convincing fashion, you'd think he might have let that do the talking. Then we would all be talking about his great performance at the final table.

Hey Paul, any chance we could get you on the show one week? :)

Adam.
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From:extempore
Date:September 14th, 2006 11:40 am (UTC)

Re: Gold

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I'm not sure I have much of interest to say about poker anymore, but sure.
From:zetack
Date:September 14th, 2006 02:40 pm (UTC)

Hey he's the next Kobe!

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Did you hear the part where he says Bodog thought he was like Kobe coming out of highschool?
From:donaldduck5671
Date:September 15th, 2006 01:43 am (UTC)

Re: Hey he's the next Kobe!

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>Did you hear the part where he says Bodog thought he was like Kobe coming out of highschool?

Colorado authorities better be on alert!

The Original Laker Hater
(fill in LA joke here)
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From:emagnetism
Date:September 14th, 2006 02:48 pm (UTC)

Wow...wow

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Phil Hellmuth listened that interview and said "What a prick!"

Especially the part about he had Allen Cunningham destroyed, and Allen didn't know what to do with him, and he had Allen figured out, except that bluff that Allen called down with ace high.

And even that was an example of Jamie's brilliance for betting into him!
From:toddcommish
Date:September 14th, 2006 04:15 pm (UTC)
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Who's the bigger asshat, Jamie Gold, Norman Chad, or the ESPN executive that keeps putting Norman Chad on the WSOP broadcasts?
From:matchesmalone
Date:September 16th, 2006 11:26 pm (UTC)

You forgot to mention...

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Alfred Molina. At least, I think that's his first name... Would the interview, or the remarks be any different, if this kid had found a way to win?
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From:kebie
Date:September 14th, 2006 05:59 pm (UTC)
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Is this post sort of sour grapes? I don't know but I listened to that interview awhile ago. It was right after he won, and also he was overly brash and cocky but so what.

This is the attitude of a player that just played for $12 million dollars, on national TV with a huge chip lead, played the bully against a bunch of players trying to inch to the top.

What kind of attitude to expect such a player to have? He has the perfect attitude for the kind of style he played.
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From:extempore
Date:September 14th, 2006 06:01 pm (UTC)
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Is this post sort of sour grapes?

Of course it is. I'm consumed with envy that someone else won a 9000 person event in which I didn't play, and I would have ripped on the winner no matter who it was or how they behaved.
From:cabrerabear
Date:September 14th, 2006 11:41 pm (UTC)

Wow

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I actually had to stop the interview because after listening to him for 10 minutes my soul hurts. Literally a small part of me has died and gone straight to the bowels of hell where Satan and Jamie Gold will feast upon it.
From:nextlevelacq
Date:September 14th, 2006 11:50 pm (UTC)

CHA CHING!

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It's funny to hear that when the WSOP main event winners always become easily acquainted with all the top pros. Maybe they look at the guy and say "here is another guy that's going to think he is the best in the world and just won 12 million, let's see if we can feed his ego and take his money in a big cash game."

It's called the "Ego Close." I teach it in sales all the time.

When these pros are telling you how good you are, you would want to believe them too.

So what do you do when your now convinced your this good?? Your ego tells you that you need to go and play a big cash game with all the top pros with your new buddies until you lose half your money before you realize your not as good as your "peers" told you were.
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From:devils_tool
Date:September 15th, 2006 01:58 am (UTC)

Hmmm.....

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I just can't tell.

Is he delirious? Or some sort of savant?
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From:roswell_42
Date:September 15th, 2006 06:29 am (UTC)

Re: Hmmm.....

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There also this quote from Jamie, in the current Bluff magazine:

"So every day I'd come to the table and everyone would freak out, and there'd be this guy sitting next to me who was practically in tears because he knew could never raise a hand. So I said, "No, listen, think about it like this: No one can raise you, because they're raising me after you. You're in a great spot, and here's the deal. In return for this protection, every time I tell you to lay down your hand, you lay down your hand. And they all said okay. So I would look at my cards before the guy to my right, and then I'd say, 'OK, you're cool; proceed...' or 'Nope. Lay it down.'"



If this was true, it obviously makes Jamie guilty of some pretty serious collusion. However, according to Doug Kim (who actually played next to Jamie), this is another exaggeration/hyperbole/fantasy.
From:setminer321
Date:September 15th, 2006 02:00 pm (UTC)
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I don't know, maybe his wonder at his own awesomeness is justified:

"published on: Thursday Sep 14, 2006
Gold Leads TCI Invitational Poker Tournanment
WSOP Champion Dominates in His First Tournament Appearance
Jamie Gold, the 2006 World Series of Poker champion, finds himself once again in a prime position to take down a title. ......
Joining Gold in the competition were featured TCI tournament star Johnny Chan, Gold’s fellow Bodog teammate David Williams, poker’s would-be rookie of the year, Jeff Madsen, Carlos “The Matador” Mortenson, Amir Vahedi, Ian Frazer, and David “Devil Fish” Ulliot. Only Chan and Madsen made it to today’s starting field of 30 players."

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_news/news_story/1364?class=PokerNews





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From:ezrastiles
Date:September 15th, 2006 02:33 pm (UTC)

Jamie's a cheat

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That's simply a gushy press release touting some silly tournament. How many chips does Jamie have? How many people played this tournament? It's impossible to believe Jamie got lucky two tourneys in a row. Even the worst players have good streaks, clear proof is that I've won my last seven sessions, including at limits (20-40) and games (o8) I've never played before. It's all I can do to stop myself from giving a Jamie Gold style dissertation to my wife on my incrediable awesomeness. I'm smart enough to know she'd react the same as paul.

I'm curious that no-one on this thread has brought up the fact that Jamie is trying to screw his WSOP backer out of $6M right now. For those who don't already know, Jamie told Bodog he could get some celebrities to wear Bodog apparel at the ME in exchange for a free seat, but turns out he couldn't (he was a very small time agent). He found a guy (a celebrity poker coach) who agreed to get Mathew Lilliard (Scream), and Dax ??? (Punked) to wear the gear. In exchange Jamie promised the poker coach half of whatever he won, and in fact left a voicemail on the coach's machine documenting the agreement on the 2nd to the last day.

Anyhoo, Jamie won and basically started stonewalling the guy with some mumbo jumbo about needing to set up a corporation for tax purposes (which is silly since he can instruct the casino to pay his partner directly and there is an IRS form for tournament chops to ensure Jamie isn't taxed on his partners winnings). Finally the coach filed suit in LV for his half, which has been frozen. Now that the lawsuit has been filed Jamie's lawyer has been quoted as saying they ain't going to pay due to some legal loophole.

So more proof of Jamie's doucheness. I know some younger poker players probably think it's okay to welsh on a deal (poker is war, take any edge you can get, etc.) but there are many pro gamblers who believe your word is your bond. My hope is Jamie's doucheness means he never gets a taste of the huge endorsement deals the last three ME winners got.
From:portisfreak
Date:September 15th, 2006 06:24 pm (UTC)
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I'm REALLY, REALLY hoping he accepts GSN's invitation to take a seats at High Stakes Poker. Watching him donk his winnings to the pros on TV will make my day, much more than him having him give his cut to his backer.
From:sleepycell
Date:September 16th, 2006 03:00 pm (UTC)
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the guy clearly sucks hard. not his game but his personality.
further proof there is no god cause if there was he would have the most humble of assholes win the ME not this cocksmoking douchebag. and mark my words, he is a cocksmoker.
anyone w/ a bodog logo is automatically a loser in my book. Calvin Ayre sucks hard too. you see his poker tourney that was televised w/ the hot pussy by the pool and all the celebrities. yes folks, being a poker champ is all about hot pussy, rubbing elbows w/ celebs, and being a cock smoker.

will this break the chain of ME winners of the last 3 years joining poker stars??? will this new champ stick w/ bodog or defect to PK??? the drama!
From:matchesmalone
Date:September 16th, 2006 11:34 pm (UTC)

Not that anyone's counting...

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But you can put me on the list of people that have been screwed by Bodog. They promised my Yahoo group a freeroll, and then welched when I didn't get enough real money signups.... Funny how that was nowhere in the original contract....

Ok, rant over.
From:matchesmalone
Date:September 16th, 2006 11:43 pm (UTC)

Ok, now that I've finished replying to everyone elses' replies...

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Paul, aren't you the guy that originated telling the truth about your hand? I've seen you do it at least three times on TV.... And, isn't it against the rules? Something about inducing or reducing action on the hand....

Also, for those of us that aren't math guys, how does 8*5=60? I understand what you're saying, I'm just not up to speed on the specific math you used to arrive at your 60% figure...

From:moxpoker
Date:September 17th, 2006 07:03 am (UTC)

Re: Ok, now that I've finished replying to everyone elses' replies...

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Simple answer: 100(all hands) - 8*5(played hands) = 60
Detailed answer: I surrender.

Cotty


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From:markjohnson
Date:September 17th, 2006 04:44 pm (UTC)

stereotypes

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Unfortunately, Jamie is reinforcing every negative jewish stereotype that exists.
From:buttermybuttox
Date:September 19th, 2006 08:52 pm (UTC)
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There is at least one jewish stereotype that i sincerely wish he exhibited, namely the humorous self-deprecating neuroses with a twist of humility.
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From:polarbear
Date:September 20th, 2006 04:34 pm (UTC)
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Holy crap, you're right. I didn't like the feel I got off him as I watched the WSOP on ESPN, he felt smarmy and way too self-important to me, but I shrugged it off because I know what happens in TV. People get skewed to whatever image the producers want that person to have, but my god, it's all true. He's an ass.
From:somms999
Date:September 21st, 2006 11:41 pm (UTC)

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Johnny Chan, what hath you wrought?